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Sofia Martinez of KUNM and The Nation, where she wrote about the plight of the Trinty Test downwinders of the Tularosa Basin and the attempts to renew and reform the Radiation Exposures Compensation Act to include them.
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Mark Ludwig, violist emeritus of the Boston Symphony Orchestra and author of the new book Our Will to Live, about the remarkable musical life in the Nazi concentration camp of Terezin (Theresienstadt.)

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Megan Kate Nelson, historian and author of Saving Yellowstone, about the exploration of the Yellowstone Basin, its conversion into a National Park, and how this fits into the historical context of the Reconstruction era. 

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Catherine Rhodes, Assistant Professor of Ethnology at UNM and co-author of the new book Migration Narratives -- talking about how 2 generations of Mexican immigrants have transformed a small city in the Mid-Atlantic states.

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The coronavirus crisis produced the opportunity to create miracle vaccines. So much for the good news. The bad news is, the vaccine-makers are breaking the bank over-charging the world. Just one offense cited in John Nichols's new book Coronavirus Criminals and Pandemic Profiteers. Politicians and corporate chiefs make villainy and greed a public-private partnership.

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Vladimir Putin is threatening to use nuclear weapons because of "aggressive language" by opponents of his invasion of Ukraine. Sticks and stones may break his bones, but harsh words have Putin brandishing nuclear threats. He's done this before, but never during actual war-time. Nuclear weapons expert Joseph Cirincione of the Quincy Institute on what Putin's threat really means. Does the concept of nuclear arms control have a future now?

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A big reason the Russian invasion of Ukraine is going so slowly is that almost all Ukrainians know exactly how bad life can be under Russian domination. They know this because of family and neighborly ties, and because of Ukraine's lively news ecosystem.  Gulnoza Said of The Committee to Protect Journalists on how reporters in Ukraine are working under siege and how reporters in Russia are under attack by their own government.
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Something new under the sun...the American use of declassified intelligence to predict or pre-empt Russian aggression against Ukraine. The wide public release of when, where and how the Russians planned to attack didn't stop them, but it did help unify the Western response, rejecting President Putin's war. Shane Harris of the Washington Post says so far there's been no pushback from inside the US intel community, but the accuracy of the predictions has undoubtedly rebuilt some confidence in the global credibility of the United States. 

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You might think the flat earth obsession was old hat, knocked into anachronism by a world in which so many people flown around the world in planes, but has more adherents today than ever before.  Kelly Weill's new book Off the Edge looks at the history of the Flat Earth movement and the other conspiracy theories it might have helped to flourish. In a world that rejects facts, every lost argument becomes confirmation for the believers, many of whom pray at the church of YouTube. 

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 The recently-completed 30-day session of the New Mexico Legislature produced relatively few bills and more than a few surprises, but Andy Lyman of the NM Political Report and KSFR FM news says, the biggest impact may be what got in and what got left out of a record breaking $8.48 billion budget. Good news for teachers and police officers.

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Kleptocracy, crime organized by a state to benefit its leaders and his or her friends and family, is a global phenomenon, but few kleptocracies can match the series of ripoffs of the citizens of the DRC, the Democratic Republic of the Congo. John Dell'Osso, senior investigator for The Sentinal, led a team probing how billions of dollars were misspent. Up to $15 billion had been stolen by President Mobuto Sese Seko before he was run out of the country. But what came next was more of the same.

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When the lockdowns caused by the coronavirus pandemic hit the supply chain for food, customers who wanted organic, home-grown vegetables in Los Angeles had a problem. Dean Kuipers of The Nation wrote about how he and his wife tried to create a solution.  It wasn't easy, but he says, it worked. And not just for the green-hungry customers, but for the farmers at the front end of the supply chain.  And when the lockdowns started to unlock..solutions had to be reconsidered.

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The billions of dollars in Federal money from the bi-partisan infrastructure bill passed last November are about to be released.  The 3 guiding principles seem to be -- get it out fast, use it most effectively and distribute it most equitably. Worthy goals, but John C. Austin of the University of Michigan and the Brookings Institution says there are conflicts to solve first. Efficient use of the money may direct it to communities that need it least. 

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When the Obama Administration offered incentives for states to expand their coverage of Medicaid. Both Louisiana and Mississippi were among the Republican-governed states that said no. Then Louisiana elected a Democratic governor and changed its mind. April Simpson of the Center for Public Integrity on the differences that made. To illustrate, Simpson went to a pair of rural, Black-majority counties on opposite banks of the Mississippi River. 
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 Xi Jinping and Vladimir Putin give each other figurative gold medals at the Winter Olympics and a big lump of coal to the United States and President Biden.  Are their beefs legit, or just cover for dreams of ever-expanding Chinese and Russian power and influence. Rajan Menon of the City University of New York has been thinking and writing about what Washington should do. Interesting answers about important questions.

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Oil spills across the world, increasing global warming is it spreads, but Chris McGreal of The Guardian and The Nation reports, ExxonMobil says legal actions against the company should stop at the Texas State Line. If you can't gaslight the legal system, their strategy suggests, at least you can forestall the Day of Judgment. Petro-kings call on the tides to stop. Didn't work for Ireland's Cuchulain, but hey. 

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A great untold story of nuclear espionage. Dave Lindorff of The Nation on how one brother -- America's top designer of ballistic missiles -- protected his younger sibling -- who gave the Russians huge secrets about the atomic bomb being built at Los Alamos. Imagine the frustration of FBI Director J Edgar Hoover as he watched both brothers keep their freedom. The spy left the country long after his damage had been done, the other brother's value to Americn kept paying off for decades. 

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The MDC, the Metropolitan Detention Center in Albuquerque is like most jails full of innocent people awaiting trial. Much too full, reports Austin Fisher of Source NM, for a shrinking staff of correction officers to handle. It's become something of a death trap, in part because of unfilled gaps in medical and mental health care.  Making the crises worse ... dealing with the coronavirus pandemic and a cyberattack that put everyone into lockdown. Inmates can't shower, get mail, meet with their lawyers or leave their cells for more than half an hour a day. 

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A woman is jailed for littering a sidewalk. She's one of very many, She dies in detox at Albuquerque's Metropolitan Detention Center. She's one of several. Cecilia Nowell of The Nation on the policies that overfill a city/county lock-up with more prisoners than it can handle and the tragic consequences.

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If it ain't broke," the old saying goes, "don't fix it."Unless your intent isn't fixing but shattering something that works, like America's system of free and fair elections. Matt Vasilogambros of the Stateline news service says in dozens of states, Republicans are changing the rules and terrorizing election officials in support of Donald Trump's Big lie, the so-called "Steal." They've even upgraded the old abuse of Gerrymandering. 

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Marking the beginning of Black History Month -- Today when a substantial majority of players in pro football and basketball and in the college games are African-American, it's hard to remember when things were Jim Crow different.  Maya Washington's new book Through the Banks of the Red Cedar looks back to the 1960s when her father, football and track star Gene Washington was one of the few Blacks in Big 10 and NFL football. Playing a key role at Michigan State University and in pro football was a teammate, then competitor, all-time all-star defensive lineman Bubba Smith. 

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One thing most Americans seriously lack when it comes to our foreign wars is a rear-view mirror. What happens to the people and places where America has sent troops or, more particularly, dropped bombs and other ordinance?  Few Americans seem to know or care, a failing which documentarians Jerry Redfern and Karen Coates address in Eternal Harvest, about Laos, where the US dropped more explosives in the 1960s and 70s than we did on Germany in World War 2, and where one lone American is trying to acknowledge what was done in our names. 

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 London's not the only home for crooked cash.  Real estate and other overpriced luxuries for launder corrupted money are also for sale in New York.  Some say this is good for Gotham's economy, but Frank Vogl, who helped found Transparency International, writes in his new book The Enablers ... an addiction to dirty money is a good for a city as being hooked on fentanyl. And in a kleptocratic world, where did money meant as global pandemic relief wind up? 

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When there was still a Soviet Union the KGB knew London was the best location to store the fruits of corruption.  Why was that? Alexander Cooley of Columbia University and Chatham House recently took part in a major study that starts from the proposition as the USSR became Putin and Company, even more corrupted cash from oligarchs and other friends and enemies of the Russian tyrant made its way to London for the same good reason: because it could.
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  It's been a year and then some since marauders, egged on by that rotten deviled egg Donald Trump, attacked the US Capital.  There have charges and arrests and investigations on the law side, but Brian Levin of Cal State San Bernardino says hate and sedition on the lawless side have only grown. 
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 The Corporate trail runs from Anaconda Copper through Atlantic Richfield to today's ARCO.  Droppings along the path, tons of toxic wastes, and hundreds of sick people. The company says it's paid its bill for the Jackpile Mine, but Elizabeth Miller of NM in Depth says ARCO got off cheap and the costly consequences have fallen on the Laguna Pueblo and taxpayers across America. Picking up the poop from decades of uranium mining and refining. This bag's for you. 

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Ever put down a dish for your littlest puppies and watch bigger dogs grab most of the food?  That's how it can be for tax breaks meant for people or business start-ups of modest scale.  Somehow the lion's share of the benefits wind up down the gullets of America's least neediest. Investigative reporter Jesse Drucker of the NY Times lays out one the latest examples. Help meant for corporate start-ups being stashed in trusts for the descendants of million and billionaire families.

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Two words sum up the American news media's treatment of African-Americans: "malign neglect."  Both in hiring and in coverage, the representation of American communities of color on radio, TV and in print journalism has been underdone.  So how to make up for it? Journalist and media literacy specialist Damaso Reyes says reparations are in order. But what does that mean?  Reyes' answer is more nuanced than you might have assumed. 

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Logic says national unity must precede national elections, but Libyan journalist Mustafa Fetouri says the vast majority of his countrymen want a chance to vote for a new President, even if the winning candidate may have little chance to govern efficiently, much less unify a bitterly fragmented nation-state. 2021's civil war suggested the country was split in two. Reality is much messier. One leading candidate is the overthrown leader Muammar Gaddafi's son. 

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The term geo-engineering may sound generic, but actually it refers specifically to the concept of deflecting from Earth some solar rays to cool global warming. Environmental scientist Gernot Wagner's book Geo-Engineering: The Gamble looks at the perceived positive and negative effects of putting theory into practice. Good may not be good enough in itself and might distract from better ideas. One casualty might be New Mexico's 300-plus days of sparkling sunshine. 

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As the Omicron Variant moves from East to West across the country, the New Mexico healthcare system is bracing for a new wave of infections. The emergency care physician Clayton Dalton, who writes eloquently for The New Yorker, says his rural hospital is already over-stressed with a dwindling core of staff and fewer options to send patients to better-equipped hospitals. Dr. Dalton admits, the fact that almost all his most serious cases are people who chose to be unvaccinated makes everything harder. 

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Watchers have had as much luck finding photographic proof  of the Loch Ness Monster as Congress has had in holding the Pentagon accountable for its budget and how it's been spent. Winslow Wheeler spent decades as a top staffer in Congress and as a monitor for the POGO think tank. Wheeler will explain why we -- not to mention Congress -- keep signing ever-bigger blank checks for  military spending. They say, where there's a will, there's a way. But Congress consistently lacks the will and the Trump Administration all but eliminated the ways to keep track. 

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Sam Quinones' book The Least of Us described how fentanyl pills, mass manufactured in Mexico and marketed on social media have created huge new populations of addicts in America. Today, reporter Matthew Reisen of the Albuquerque Journal narrows the focus to the streets of New Mexico's biggest city where fentanyl is addicting new generations of people. Reisen talked with officers from the DEA and APD, with sellers and buyers of America's new king of addictive drugs.

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In 2015, Sam Quinones wrote Dreamland the book that broke the news of America's opioid addiction epidemic and how the market had moved from prescription drugs like OxyContin to cheaper Mexican heroin. Late last year, Quinones updated the story in The Least of Us, a book about the industrialization of addiction through fentanyl.

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It's as if he were Donald Trump's shadow. David Cay Johnston was born two years after Trump and they stayed away from one another for 30 years. Then their paths crossed when Johnston was writing a book about casinos, Wall Street and the Mob. Johnston's new book The Big Cheat is his third on The Donald. 

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Is America headed for a second Civil War? No, says Brian Michael Jenkins of the RAND Corporation. But mostly, he says, that's because that kind of formal war is out of date. What Jenkins worries about is an America beset by uncivil rhetoric leading to violent confrontation, even planned attacks like January 6, and old and new media sources busy normalizing them. But if and when such bad things happen, it's the job of government to respond to them. 

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When it comes to sentencing, how much consideration should be given to the age of the convict when the crime was committed? Special consideration for people under 18? Austin Fisher of Source NM has reported the case of a woman, just 17 when she was holding the bag that held a murder weapon. She got 30 years to life. Her defense was inept and her sentencing hearing took 19 minutes, which included an ill-judged rant from the judge.

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The migration of blue-collar jobs to non-union or lower-wage destinations on both sides of the Texas-Mexico border have left Indiana hollowed up. Indianapolis is a graveyard of abandoned factory buildings and hundreds of left behind workers. Farah Stockman's new book American Made is focused on a question: "What happens to people when work disappears?" She follows 3 skilled, but unemployed former factory workers --one woman, 2 men, one White, one African American.  But they're all human and all wondering what happens next.

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 When climate change hits the top of a mountain, a lot of things happen -- less snow, faster melt and more degradation of the rocks themselves. Elizabeth Miller has written in Scientific American about how this climate-driven process is putting more heavy metals and rare earths into less water headed for people's drinking supplies.We know some of the heavy metals, like lead and cadmium can endanger human health, but what's scary is what we don't know about rare earth elements. 

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The COP 26 climate change conclave is over.  Most of the world's most powerful leaders dropped by Glasgow , leaving people wondering why Chinese leader Xi Jinping didn't, and wondering what that signaled. Meanwhile Xi and President Biden had private talks, some also focused on climate change. But what did COP 26 accomplish? And what's supposed to happen next?  Talk is cheap, but real fixes are very expensive.  Is there a plan to pay for saving the planet? Andrew Freedman covers climate issues for Axios. 

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The customers paying Facebook to help them target buyers say it's a process of inclusion...finding everyone likely to want their product,  But Zinyan Zang of the Kennedy School at Harvard and the Brookings Institution says his research shows Facebook's parsing of the population produces exclusion based on racial and ethnic discrimination. And Zang says so-called reforms forced on facebook by a suit by the ACLU have only made matters worse.

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The story of asbestos is like that of leaded gasoline.  Its manufacturers knew for decades it was a deadly threat to human health, but they sold it just the same. Alisa Ghura of the Brookings Institution on the presence of asbestos in Philadelphia's public schools.  Ordinary school buildings filled with impoverished, mostly-minority students get patched, elite schools get fixed. The problem and the faux-solution exists in other cities from Baltimore to Chicago to Berkeley, CA. 

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 China tests 2 hypersonic weapons and the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs calls it a shock approaching the launch of Sputnik. But Mark Thompson, a Pulitzer Prize-winning investigative journalist now at the Project on Government Oversight reminds us, military threats like hypersonic weapons can begin with hype.

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 The US Constitution guarantees all people accused of crimes the option of a trial by jury.  But is part of that guarantee that it takes a unanimous vote to convict?  The Supreme Court says the answer is yes -- from this day forward.  But what about Louisiana's 1500 prison inmates convicted by less-than-unanimous juries? And does it matter that 80% of those people are African-American. Jeremy Young of Al Jazeera English's Fault lines has the story, of Jim crow justice.

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The region around Albuquerque has had several job-creation achievements to celebrate. But will Facebook and Amazon pay people enough to afford safe and sound places to live?  Reporter Patrick Lohmann of Source NM on the housing crisis in NM's biggest city and an ongoing hospital crisis in the smaller town of Gallup.  For weeks, Gallup's Rehoboth McKinley hospital was no place to birth a baby. The labor and delivery unit was shut down. 

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4 words describe corporate spending on keeping America's power lines humming -- too little, too late. Ivan Penn of the NY Times on utility CEOs' promises and reality in hurricane-hit Louisiana and in fire-ravaged California, while the isolated Texas power grid's struggle with winter cold and summer heat prove, you can't cure stupidity. Penn says scientific progress is outrunning technical capacity as the country tries to fit the power grid for use in a post-fossil fuel world.

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Leon Panetta, one of the politicians most tied to the war in Afghanistan said, as the US withdrew its troops...you can leave a battlefield but not the war on terrorism.  David Bromwich columnist for The Nation and Professor of Literature at Yale University says Panetta is significantly wrong on both points. Reducing a country to a battlefield is a losing strategy, he says, and adopting strategies of warfare to combat terrorism has largely failed as well.

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Since 2014, a Federal USGS study has tied fracking to earthquakes. In Oklahoma and Northeastern New Mexico, increased fracking for oil and gas extraction has been followed by increased seismic activity.  Now that pattern is showing up in SE New Mexico where not just petroleum products are below ground. Jerry Redfern of Capital & Main and Source NM reports on a potential threat to nuclear waste sites.

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How did Donald Trump manage to turn America into a political dystopia?  Karen Greenberg, the Director of the Center on National Security at Fordham University Law School answers that question in her new book Subtle Tools.  Trumpism starts by corrupting language continues by undermining government structures and processes and hiding the impact through secrecy. 

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When the German elections were over, the flavor of the results was tutti frutti.  Any governing coalition had to include at least three parties, and the votes for the top two parties were so close, that the next two parties could essentially go either way.  But which way might the progressive Greens and the pro-business Free Democrats want to go? Madeleine Schwartz of The Ballot and the NY Review of Books helps us understand the story, in depth.

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First it devastated the shark and tuna populations off its shores.  Then, it went looking for other seafood in other waters. AP's Joshua Goodman broke the story of how the Chinese fishing fleet -- the world's biggest -- is taking tons of squid from both the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans off South America. Not only is the Chinese fishing fleet big, it is growing, and when it comes to playing by the rules of the seas, they showed Goodman a lot of signs they were bad. 

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With oil, you get gas.  That's just how nature works. With access, you get influence. That's just how politics works. Cody Nelson has reported for Source NM on how access and influence, spiced with healthy splashes of campaign contributions, works for New Mexico's oil and gas industry. State revenues from taxes on oil and gas extraction mean even more. Environmentalists say state officials are less open to them than they are to lobbyists from the energy industry, and they have evidence. The story, in depth on HERE & THERE -- coming up next.  

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Lessons derived from 20 years of war in Afghanistan, and how they might be applied in the future...for war planning and in looking at the new American military and diplomatic initiatives challenging Chinese ambitions in the Pacific. Rajan Menon of the City University of New York weighs in on, among other things, the clear roadmap for failure in Afghanistan that US planners seem to have ignored as a warning and followed to a second, failed conclusion. 

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Waiting for our boosters to be approved and distributed as the pandemic grinds on.  Meanwhile, Yale School of Public Health epidemiologist and columnist for The Nation Gregg Gonsalves has some survival suggestions and policy prescriptions for us to think about. Here are 2 ideas to start with ... the crisis isn't over and the coming winter could be a testing time. 

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 More than anything else, the future of New Mexico depends on water, how much of it climate change will leave us and how we will use what we have.  Laura Paskus of Our Land on NM Public Television ... on a once in a generation examination of NM's water resources. One thing the experts found was that the State needs better collection and analysis of ongoing climate and water data. Otherwise, policy-makers are drilling in the dark.

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As the coronavirus pandemic threatened to crash the global economy, the American central bank, the Federal Reserve stepped in, opened the taps, and saturated the other banks and nations of the world in US Dollars.  Our guest Adam Tooze's brilliant new book, Shutdown explains how it was done and looks at what might happen next. Tooze shows how lessons were learned from the austere response to the financial meltdown of 2008 and a different course was taken.

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The American approach to welfare could hardly be more negative. Not only is what welfare recipients receive considered "good enough for them," the humiliations they have to go through to get their pittance are even worse. Eli Hager of Pro Publica on the hoops some single mothers had to jump through to feed their families. Dollars that could go to relieve financial distress get diverted to pay for the investigations and interrogations that precede the first grant.

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As the coronavirus pandemic threatened to crash the global economy, the American central bank, the Federal Reserve stepped in, opened the taps, and saturated the other banks and nations of the world in US Dollars.  Our guest Adam Tooze's brilliant new book, Shutdown explains how it was done and looks at what might happen next. Tooze shows how lessons were learned from the austere response to the financial meltdown of 2008 and a different course was taken. 

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Mauricio Savarese, Peter Prengaman's co-author of Dilma's Downfall, and colleague at the Associated Press in Brazil picks up the story of what happened after Dilma fell, taking us up to today and President Jair Bolsonaro, the vaccination-refuser whose delegation during a recent visit to the UN, turned out to have 4 Covid-infected members.

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Brazilian President Dilma Rousseff had a remarkable career.  Once an imprisoned, tortured accused "terrorist," then a local political organizer who worked her way up to become President Lula's chief-of-staff, then the twice-elected President herself.  Guest Peter Prengaman co-wrote Dilma's Downfall, a new book about the first female President of Brazil to be impeached.

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Well, here's some bad news, fentanyl is in town, in Santa Fe...and here's worse news, it's being abused by local teenagers.  Victoria Traxler of The New Mexican reports the number of NM children under 20 being killed by drug overdoses is now growing faster than for adults. 

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The scholar and foreign policy analyst Moises Naim is from Venezuela, where his new novel 2 Spies in Caracas is set.  The book paints a frightening portrait of the late Bolivarian revolutionary Hugo Chavez and the corrupt, inept state he created.  We'll talk about Chavez' legacy and American attempts to combat it. Current President Nicolas Maduro came from behind Chavez' shadow and seems a dim replication in every way, except when it comes to clinging to power, at which he has so far excelled. 

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How many American healthcare workers have been killed by Covid-19? The terrible answer is, we really don't know, but Christina Jewett of Kaiser Health News and The Guardian's Lost on the Frontline Project says we do know, the government's official counts by the CDC and OSHA are terribly short.  She notes, the Nurses' union says the death toll has passed 4000. Suffice it to say, CDC's count is far less than half that, and lacks the person-by-person documentation the union and the Lost on the Frontline Project present. Is it that Uncle Sam doesn't want to know, or that government doesn't want you to know? 

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If the now year and a half long siege of Covid-19 has been stressful for adults, has it been even harder to handle for children?  Katie Stone host and producer of the excellent radio program The Children's Hour says one answer does not fit all kids.  So how can adults help their children? Finding out what they know is a good start. And when it comes to things neither the child nor the adult knows, the best answer is ... look it up together and then the whole family can know. 

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Communist China has had 5 significant changes of leadership since the Peoples Republic was proclaimed in 1949.  Scholar David Shambaugh's new book China's Leaders: From Mao to Now profiles Mao Zedong, Deng Xiaoping, Jiang Zemin, Hu Jintao and Xi Jinping ... from Mao's permanent revolution to Xi's self-assignment as Emperor for Life.

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Kim Jong Un, the tyrannical leader of North Korea has slimmed down, but was the weight loss caused by bad health?  Korea expert Bruce Bennett of the RAND Corporation sees a symptom in changes to the rules of governance that could reduce Kim's control of the country, something that, in the past, he's killed to keep. Covid has put North Korea into a mega-lockdown, meaning outsiders see even less of what's going on in that dark and endangered nation. 

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One of the practices that sums up the corruption of America's system of justice is judge shopping, finding a judge you think will see things your way and not the way of your accusers. The Sackler family, the people behind Purdue Pharma, the company behind oxycontin and the epidemic of addiction the opioid drug set off just finished an exemplary bit of judge-shopping and, many would say, injustice. Chris McGreal of The Guardian has covered the opioid epidemic from start to, well, this.

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President Biden says withdrawal from Afghanistan ends the era of America's "forever wars." But what does that mean? Mark Thompson covers military issues for POGO, The Project on Government Oversight and asks, what will happen to the Pentagon money budgeted for an Afghan Army that no longer exists?  And what can "over the horizon" forces like drones and missiles do to contain the threat of terrorism? Answers, he says, have more to do with political will than military muscle.

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Even being tossed unprepared onto a battlefield in Iraq didn't prepare Matthew Hoh for Afghanistan where his mission for the State Department was undermined by the Afghan security forces and government. The brutality of government troops was overmatched by the corruption and ineptitude of the civilians sent to work with Hoh's Provincial Reconstruction project in Zabul province. A look at what worse was to come. 

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There goes the neighborhood.  Investigative reporter Tony Davis of the Arizona Star and High Country News on how the arrival of a massive CAFO  (concentrated animal feeding operations) has dimmed the stars in the sky and devoured water from the ground and brought traffic, dust and manure aromas to rural areas in Arizona and Minnesota. Riverview LLP has brought with it jobs and money, but many neighbors says it's reduced the value of their homes and savings.

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If America's private security contractors sometimes run out of control, security industry scholar David Isenberg says the reason is, the people who hire them at the Defense Department are happy with the arrangement.  He cites recent reports from the Government Accounting Office (the GAO) on all things the Pentagon doesn't know about its PSCs, including how many they have, where they are and what they're doing.

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America living in the shadow of fear. Spencer Ackerman's new book Reign of Terror says anxieties created by the terrorist attacks of 9/11/2001 and stoked by the National Security Industry have changed our country is just the ways President Dwight Eisenhower warned us about.  Endless wars beget endless security budgets.  And mass tolerance of authoritarian grifters like Donald Trump. 

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When all the 2020 votes were in, substantially more Americans had voted for Democrats running for Congress, but still the Republican Party made important gains in seats in the House. 2 reasons why -- gerrymandering and voter suppression.  Journalist-author Dave Daley on how this contradiction could repeat itself only moreso in 2022.  When politicians game elections and then start to change the game. Not just Democrats, but democracy itself loses. 

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Two things that can follow a successful revolution: the once popular leaders can become brutal autocrats and they start to eliminate their former fellow-revolutionaries.  Both those things are happening in Nicaragua. Linda Mannheim has written in The Nation about how President turned dictator Daniel Ortega has been locking up former comrades who are now his political opponents.  She says the recent arrest of the Sandinista Revolution's most beloved women shows a dangerous red line is being crossed.

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Polls consistently show that about 80% of the American people support the Endangered Species Act, so why is the Fish and Wildlife Service weakening enforcement of its protections for animals like the red wolf and the Florida panther? Jimmy Tobias has written about these issues for The Intercept and recently in The Nation.  The threats to both animals aren't just hunters, but developers a nd right-win Republican politicians. 

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What will it take to solve the water shortage on the Navajo reservation?  The coronavirus pandemic was a cruel reminder of the consequences when you live unable to follow the simplest survival suggestion -- wash your hands.  That takes water to do that.  Without access to clean, reliable sources of water, hundreds of Native Americans have died.  And still progress is slow. Elizabeth Miller has been covering the story for NM in depth.

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A too-often neglected part of climate change is that change often involves eradication. Marina Psaros's new book The Atlas of Disappearing Places, looks at 20 places around the planet which could be lost beyond recovery because of rising temperatures and oceanic sea levels.  The endangered locales are parts of great cities like New York and Shanghai, the important grain-basket and fisheries of the Mekong Delta and low-lying islands in the Indian Ocean and the Chesapeake Bay. 

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Today on HERE & THERE: For the Catholic Church to lose $415 million on a planned real estate development in London is a catastrophe, no doubt, but is it a crime?  Vatican prosecutors think so and they've charged, among others, one of Pope Francis' once-most-trusted Cardinals and the Vatican Bank's two top experts on financial intelligence Jason Berry of the National Catholic Reporter has been covering the issues in the Vatican's just-begun trial of the century. 

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Why do so many Americans seem to have no concept of either of the two words, "civic duty?" Amber Northern, director of research for the Thomas B. Fordham Institute says this may be a result of too many states with no, or poorly thought-out standards for teaching US History and Civics in their public schools. The Fordham Institute has been evaluating standards for teaching U S History for a couple of generations.  What's being taught in today's classrooms, their study says, is "a national crisis." 

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More than a billion dollars a year in economic activity is generated by the Great Salt Lake.  But drought and development have reduced the Lake to its lowest water levels ever recorded.  Lindsay Whitehurst, based in Salt Lake City for the Associated Press explains the causes and the consequences of unplanned shrinkage. Among species facing serious disruption are white pelicans and brine shrimp, not to mention the humans who love seeing the birds or who earn a living from harvesting the shrimp and their eggs. 

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When it comes to over a dozen American institutions from Congress and the Presidency to the church and TV news, American opinion over the past 3 years, describes a sharp-edged triangle, low in 2019, significantly higher in the Plague Year 2020, then falling swiftly back to 2019 levels this year. Mohamed Younis editor-in-chief of Gallup News on what his pollsters learned this summer. We Americans love the ones we need, for as long as we need 'em. And when we think we've dodged the bullet???

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 The front line is a frightening place to be, especially when the forces on your side of the line are in bloody retreat.  In Asia Hong Kong has for more than 100 years been the front line of the battle for intellectual, cultural and political freedom.  Mary Hui of quartz.com has an update on the fight for the right to print, broadcast, teach or even think freely in Hong Kong. Her report is something of a casualty count. 

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Like everyplace in New Mexico, the small city of Farmington, up in the Four Corners where NM, AZ, UT and CO meet, is feeling the heat from climate change, but Hannah Grover of the NM Political Report says the region is taking a second blow, from the threat of climate change, which is forcing the closing of its employment hub -- the San Juan Generating Station. And the mines for the coal that will soon stop powering it. Can the new technology of carbon capture save the region?  Grover says there are nay-sayers. 

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Say the name Jack Ruby and most people remember -- he's the guy who shot and killed Lee Harvey Oswald.  But most of those people have forgotten his trial for murdering the man who assassinated President John F. Kennedy David Fisher has co-written with Dan Abrams Kennedy's Avenger a book about a trial in which much went wrong and the guilty verdict was overturned on appeal. 

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 What are the measures of human satisfaction and discontent?  The pandemic helped the Gallup Organization expand its happiness horizon. Gallup Global Managing Partner Jon Clifton on how polling also unveiled a secret sign of sadness ... people smiled and laughed less in 2020, and their levels of perceived stress jumped dramatically. But the real headline may be that the bad year of 2020 only slightly exaggerated 10-year trends in growing unhappiness and sliding personal satisfaction.

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 In a feat of protective coloration as successful as the zebra's stripes, the mid-20th century baseball clubowner Bill Veeck portrayed himself as hardball's class clown, sending a midget to gat for the St Louis Browns and making the Chicago White Sox pioneers in Latino hiring, but Ellis Simani of Pro Publica tells us, Veeck invented a tax trick that has saved his real team -- the owners --billions. It explains how one NBA owner paid taxes on his $650 million annual income at a lower rate than a woman who sells beer at his arena.

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Donald Trump criticised NATO because the US carried too much of the weight for an alliance that, he said, failed to protect Europe against Russia. Rajan Menon, Professor of International Relations at the City College of New York isn't sure Trump was right about NATO, but warns "the Quad" a new alliance against China has both those basic flaws. The allies, India, Japan and Australia add little strength to the US and aren't likely to stem Chinese aggression against Taiwan.

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The pending shift from petroleum-powered internal combustion engines to cleaner electric vehicles has only underscored a backlog of needs in America's power generation and distribution systems.  Ivan Penn of the NY Times has covered the competition for Federal funding between Big Power companies and their long-lines of transmission pylons and wires...and new technologies. Rooftop solar systems, small scale wind collectors and community scaled distribution nodes argue betting on them predicts a better American energy future. 

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When the new coalition government took power in Israel, many observers noted their tiny 1-seat majority in Parliament and predicted it wouldn't last long.  Now, a month or so later, Associated Press Jerusalem Bureau Chief Josef Federman says, most observers think it could outlive those dire prognostications.  Why is there more confidence in Prime Minister Naftali Bennett and his coalition colleagues? It may be because of how they handed a series of crises tossed their way by the Bibi Netanyahu-led opposition. 

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The President of Haiti has been assassinated, apparently by a professional hit team.  Jovenal Moise was under political siege before the attack, accused of using illegal and unconstitutional means to extend his time in power.  Amy Wilentz is one of America's top scholars on Haiti, she'll tell us the story in depth.

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There's a new Delta variant of the Covid-19 coronavirus stirring trouble in Europe and the US.  Are vaccinated people safe? Do the unvaccinated compromise everyone's health or just their own?  And should people with weak immunity get a third shot of vaccine right away? Epidemiologist Justin Lessler of Johns Hopkins Medical school on what we know and what we're still learning about the pandemic.

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Even as the Taliban sweeps government forces out of provinces in northern Afghanistan, their internal discipline may be coming apart.  Could the poet Yeats have predicted the chaos to come? Pamela Constable of the Washington Post has been watching the American withdrawal and those being left behind. The Taliban's attempt to put a pretty face on its conquests can't hide the ugly world they enforce on women. 

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Aztec Ruins National Monument, Carlsbad Caverns National Park and the protected zone around Chaco Canyon, they're all surrounded by abandoned oil wells, more than 500 among the 3. There is important news here, none of it good. Southeastern New Mexico's oil patch, reporter J Weston Phippen of Searchlight NM in a forest of pump-jacks, some working, some dead, some big trouble. Volunteers investigate because the State hasn't got the resources.

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The last time there was a Presidential election in Iran, more than 70% of eligible voters cast ballots.  And voted the Supreme Leader's candidate down by 2 to 1. This time, that same candidate won with 62.5% support. Of course, this time, more than half of eligible voters stayed home. Trita Parsi of the Quincy Institute explains the story.

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One thing we know about the world after the Covid-19 pandemic has been brought under control -- it's going to be different from the one before the global coronavirus outbreak. Some of the biggest changes will be in the world's workplaces, about which Dr. Jim Harter has been asking questions and collecting answers for the Gallup Organization. Why are so many workers opting out of their jobs? How can employers bring them back... and then make them happier and more productive?

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When the coronavirus pandemic made getting credible information to the American people an absolute necessity, already, an American Press Institute survey showed more than 20% of the adult population was already tuned out.  Since then, things have only gotten worse.  Longtime editor and media analyst Tom Rosenstiel helped run the API study and has some ideas on how to repair the damage to journalism's reputation and influence in our craven new world of extreme political partisanship and pick your facts news consumers.

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When the coronavirus knocked on America's door back in February 2020 no one answered at the White House.  We now know President Donald Trump was informed, but stayed completely disengaged from the crisis.  In her new book, Virus, Nina Burleigh says willful ignoring, not willful ignorance cost hundreds of thousands of American lives. Burleigh's book goes misstep by misstep through the greatest medical catastrophe to hit this country in 100 years. 

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Anthony, NM is one of the poorest towns in one of the poorest states in America. All the consequences of that were magnified by the Covid-19 pandemic and the non-responses of the state of Texas, halfway down Main Street and Mexico, whose border is just 24 miles away.  Rescue from catastrophe, Alicia Inez Guzman reported for Searchlight NM require a lot of Do It Yourself. Bringing testing and then vaccination to this remote desert community was just the beginning. Next, distributing food and assuring shelter.

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The penetrability of data collected in the digital universe has made protecting the secrecy of government security operations a lot harder. But the US Government's response, says Newsweek investigative reporter William Arkin, has been to create "the biggest secret army" in world history. Thousands of spies, fighters, analysts and clerks...all of 'em kept off the books.  Arkin says it has made holding the people and the billiions of dollars spent on them accountable almost impossible.  Kinda dangerous in a democracy to cut the people out of the awareness loop.  

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In a society where almost all our most successful people use everything from smart-ass lawyers to easily purchasable legislators to avoid paying a fair share of taxes, it should be no surprise how many cheaters abused the Paycheck Protection Program.  Still, Lydia DePillis's reporting on PPP fraud for Pro Publica should be a moral wake-up call.  How universal Donald Trump's definition of "being smart" by cheating the government has become! 

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